Archive for February, 2011
Wow, I don’t even know where to start with this one.Â Hopefully by the time you read this the auction will already be deleted from.Â This guy claims the site makes $4800/mth and has 20,000 unique visitors per month.
Of course it has a Alexa ranking of N/A and that is probably because if you look at the Google Cache of agub.org it looks like it was an available domain name just a month ago.Â It redirects, but I am sure you can catch it.
This auction is about the worst I have seen.Â STAY AWAY!
Well, here is a site that doesn’t look too bad on the surface.Â Cute little site, paypal screenshots of revenue, $1200 per month (profit) with less than 2 hours per week work…Â Wait, that is kinda a RED FLAG there, don’t you think?Â This seller is selling a $1200/mth automated profit machine for a but-it-now of under $8000.Â Of course, if all this is true anyone would be a fool not to buy it.
But, let’s look at this auction…Â First off it was registered on Jan 4, 2011:
We have driven over $2500.00 in sales in the last 60 days.
Since the site hasn’t been in existence for 60 days, that is tough to believe.Â And the paypal screenshot shows a $600+ payment that does not seem in line with anything they sell on the site.
Also, the site claims a whopping 150 unique visitors per month and $1600 in sales.Â That is a VERY VERY VERY high conversion rate for any site.Â Not that it is not possible, but I would have equally VERY VERY VERY strong doubts.
There are in fact a ton of red flags here, but you don’t need to look much farther than this one…Â In December 2010 the seller m82492 sold the same site with the same listing just a different domain name – addtwitterfollows.com (see link).Â Notice everything is the same — even the reason for selling:
We are in the middle of a Large Development that will be launching on Jan.1, 2011 so we are selling a couple of our smaller businesses to provide the launch money we will need for our New Project.
Of course they changed the date to March 1st.Â I will contactand hope they will do the right thing and suspend BOTH accounts as obviously this guy is trying to pull a fast one.Â And Flippa wants to protect the buyers.
It the latest effort by the now almost notorious George Pappas Jr he filed a DCMA complaint with Google.Â You can see the DMCA complaint here.
Unfortunately when submitting the complaint Mr. Pappas apparently failed to read this:
I swear, under penalty of perjury, that the information in the notification is accurate and that I am the copyright owner or am authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed.
The reality is that I never used a picture from Mr. Pappas’ website and, in fact, it is easily verifiable by the fact that his website wasn’t even registered until Jan 24, 2011 — well after any images and/or information appeared on this site.Â So I think swearing under the penalty of perjury that the images were taken from his site was a bit risky.Â And I, of course, will dispute it.
You know, the sad thing is that even the people he has robbed of their money have agreed not to pursue a refund any further.Â So I am not sure why George keeps insisting on digging this up.Â George, move on with your life.Â You are in my prayers.
Here is an email I received from someone who felt like they have been scammed…
IP OF SENDER: 188.8.131.52
IS A: Search Engine Optimization
No technical support etc. Paid Rob Benwell [http://www.bloggingtothebank.com/atm.html]; then paid Andrew Wallace [clicks.aweber.com], but did not see that they are actually in the same thing
Here are my thoughts…
Ummm… Â Unsure what to do with this? Â Can you provide more details so I can understand how you feel you were scammed.
Here is an email I received from someone who felt like they have been scammed…
IP OF SENDER: 184.108.40.206
IS A: eBook
I bought www.firestormsoccer.com for 85.000k and put 50k down through escrow.com and of course like a idiot i released the funds when I received the domain. however I found he tried pulling same scam a while ago with this website. http://www.creativemaxx.com/
So I would like to know if you could help me find out who the real person behind all this is…
Well, I found where you bought the site (click thumbnail for full image) but still do not have enough details of how exactly you were scammed…?Â Was the revenue falsified?Â Was the site never delivered?
I also found the creativemaxx.com sale on Flippa but am still not sure what happened to you.Â Please provide more details.
Here is an email I received…
IS A: Other
Is this a scam or profitable?
Here is what I think…
First off, there is a long road between scam and profitable.Â Just because you don’t make money with something that was sold to you as a money making opportunity does not mean it was a scam.Â At least in my book.Â With the website flipping scams often highlighted on this site the “scam” part comes in because the website that is being sold has a listing that has fake/false claims about earnings, traffic, etc.
So, as long as you get the product when you order it (in general) this would not be a “scam” per-se.Â However, that does not mean it is not junk…Â Which is exactly what I think it is…
Look, how much farther do you need to look than to see that what is being offered here is the dream — HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE, INVEST NEXT-TO-NO-MONEY, SPEND NO TIME, DON’T WORK HARD, and MAKE MONEY ON AUTOPILOT.
Lucky for us Mr. Tim Yu (or Ewen Chia / Chia Ti Wah) has taken the time to write a guide so others can do what he does and make money doing nothing…Â Of course do you want to take advice from Mr. Yu?Â I mean on the one hand, he may be the nicest guy in the world — he found what amounts to a money tree (yes, a tree that grows money) and he is willing to spend all this time and resources writing a guide and website just so you can have this too!Â And for only $17 bucks!Â But realistically, I don’t know many people who generate “MASSIVE INTERNET INCOME FROM ANY NICHE ON COMPLETE AUTOPILOT” and then decide they need to work harder for the good of the others on the internet so they write a guide so you can do it too.
I mean, one of the easiest ways to fall into a “JUNK-TRAP” online is to get wrapped up in the notion that someone has discovered some big secret that means you can simply exchange money for more money.Â That is what Mr Chia (Yu) is saying, right?Â You give him $17 and he gives you thousands, no, hundreds of thousands, no, wait — unlimited money in return.Â After all, if you have to do (next-to) NOTHING but pay him $17 to get unlimited cash in return, then he might as well just trade funds with you…Â Right?
THE PRODUCT ITSELF?
Mr. Wah is selling you information on how to start and autoblog…Â “Fresh content daily” that you do not have to write.Â So WHERE do you think the content is coming from?Â Well, it MUST be from others.Â Your autoblog is simply using what others have written and copying it onto your site.Â Is this illegal?Â Nope.Â Many authors are happy to allow you to use their works on your site.Â But the question is, is it valuable!? Well, if everyone in the world can put the same information on their site (autoblog) then what value does it have to you?Â You can be one of the many people who have this “fresh content” on your site.Â And if the idea is that search engines are going to rank you high because you have so much “fresh content” you should read up on what search engines think about duplicate content.
I don’t want to go on all day on this subject — I have work to do!Â So I will close with this…Â When checking out ANY opportunity simply ask yourself — does this sound like reality as I know it?Â Or does this sound like a fantasy?Â Ignore the hype!Â Remember, just because there is hype doesn’t mean an opportunity is not good, however you must look at the offer through a hype-free lens and see if there is anything to it but hype.Â If someone is claiming you can buy something for very little money that will make you tons of money with no work — well, you know what the reality is, don’t you?
Thanks for writing me.Â Take care.
IMPORTANT NOTE ON INVESTING: You should never waste money — be it $17 or $17,000,000…Â So it is great to give due diligence to any product before you buy it.Â However, if you are worried about investing in a product because you cannot afford to waste the money (lose it) then you are NOT ready to be investing.Â Always ONLY invest what you can afford to lose.Â Every business investment is a risk.Â Invest only what you can afford to lose.
IMPORTANT NOTE ON CLICKBANK: This product is sold through ClickBank.Â Any product sold through ClickBank will have a money back guarantee that WILL be honored.Â So, you do not really need to have fear when buying one of these products.Â If it doesn’t live up to the hype, return it. However, you must be ethical and honest.Â You should not return something just because you changed your mind or because you want the information for free.Â Authors work hard to write these books and build their sites…Â Honor that with your integrity — only returning goods that have failed to meet their hype, not your personal desire.
This guy never stops, it is so sad.Â If I could meet this guy I would give him a big hug and share Gods word with him.Â He needs the Light in his life so badly.Â But instead he insists on going further and further down into the rabbit hole.
He is now selling victoriouspicks.com on Website Broker.Â Â If you have seen anything from Pappas before, you know the claim — making thousands, I will email you proof of last three months.Â Of course the site was registered less than a month ago.
He also has decided to build a site to use to defame his ousters…Â The concept is — I will continue posting bad stuff about you until you take the stuff you have posted about me down. Of course, what he is posting is just some babbling nonsense and if anyone has a concern about his postings I would be happy to address them here.Â As I have stated before, this is a common direction many take — if you post about me, I will post about you.Â Ah, the internet!
But, I have no hard feelings towards George.Â I want him to stop scamming people, but I would be happy to help him move forward in any way I can.Â I know Andre who originally contacted me about George has forgiven him and moved on as well.Â t is so unfortunate that Pappas has chosen to continue down a self-destructive path.
George, man, I would be happy to talk to you.Â There is freedom in cleaning up and moving forward.Â Way before this time next year this can all be behind you. Don’t fight for pride; you know what the truth is.Â We have PayPal screenshots,shots, conversations with you, etc all clearly showing what as occurred.Â If you wish, I can release all of the information I have so that the public can make a better decision as to what has transpired to tarnish your name.Â But, as you have asked me not to I am still honoring that request.
George, until I hear from you, I recommend you not head down the path of blackmail and defamation.Â Do you think the result is going to be positive?Â I am, as is always extended, offering you a better option.Â Take care.